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starfrosting ([personal profile] starfrosting) wrote2006-08-05 01:20 am

can I register? now...

1. Oh, -- how...nostalgic in that not-really way you make me. Particularly those parts of you where I got jumped on for being too much of a fag (in that liking-butches way, even) to talk about SM with butch/femme people. Oy gevalt. (Though [livejournal.com profile] worldwalkerdc and [livejournal.com profile] epiceneone were quick on the firm, polite, and bad-ass draw to have my back, of course.)

I know this seems silly and overly internet-y to even warrant posting about, but it is sort of interesting to trace a personal genealogy from a hundred postings scattered over 3 years, see myself hashing out sexuality and gender within the terms of butch/femme sexualities and genders, sift sift shifting...

Which reminds me, this Femme 2006 conference that [livejournal.com profile] kristy_chan is presenting at seems pretty cool. They cast a circle at the beginning! (I'm not being snarky, I really like that.) Is it just about femme women, though?

2. All the food I ate today had red meat in it, except for fasoulakia, beer, and a cookie. My dad made keftedes with ouzo sauce and they are really fucking good.

3. My dad's got a couple buddies down here and it's really funny, because while they're , they're such teenagers. One is a total pothead and when I was fixing my lunch today there was a glass piece on the kitchen counter. This is the guy who drank a bunch of Maker's Mark when they were out and booted (or, as my dad put it, 'blew chunks--booting is too gentle') in my dad's car. The other one is a retired merchant marine who talked to me about how GPS and other so-called innovations took all the romance out of his navigating work. The other is one of my dad's closer friends who I've known since I was little who urged me to pick at some leftover chicken while he drank lemonade out of a big glass bottle. I just thought you all should know.

4. And speaking of my dad, he looked down today! I had just cut (read: hacked at) my hair, and while I was talking to my dad he sort of leaned down to touch my collar. "What're you doing?" I said. "I'm looking...What is that?" he asks.

Now of course I'm paranoid cos I think he's looking at some scratch, abrasion, bruise, or otherwise fucked-up-looking mark on my body. I recoil subtly, but then he says, "Is that hair on your chest?"

"No, not yet," I said. "I mean, it's hair from me cutting my hair."
"Not yet," he repeated. Then, in that jocular/jabby/dealing with it kinda way, he goes, "Well, I can't blame you--who wouldn't want to be a man?" Looks sidewise at me trying to get a reaction. "It's a man's world!"

Talk about biting yr tongue. I think sometimes it's best not to react to these sort of goading jokes, yes?

[identity profile] kristy-chan.livejournal.com 2006-08-05 07:20 am (UTC)(link)
I don't even know about the circle casting!
Info?
The conference is for "femme allies" too. So whatever.

OMG YOUR DAD.

[identity profile] starfrosting.livejournal.com 2006-08-05 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I know he's amazing.
Re: the conference, I was more curious as to whether the discussions/analysis of femme is focused specifically on femme women, or if it focuses on femme across various genders.
And, on the itinerary posted on the website the first thing it lists is a circle-casting by this lady whose name I recognized but can't remember. I would love to read yr paper since I can't make it to hear you present...

[identity profile] kristy-chan.livejournal.com 2006-08-06 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
I know there are going to be diverse femmes there like trans femmes too. I read the panels and the content seemed simultaneously queer/pomo and second wave/lesbian-ish.

I will send the paper to you. I'm actually thinking of changing a paper I wrote two years ago.

XO

[identity profile] starfrosting.livejournal.com 2006-08-06 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
awesome, I like when both of those emphases are present.

my email is olstephano at vassar. x!

[identity profile] eliding.livejournal.com 2006-08-07 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too me too? Only if you wanna, of course. econley at oberlin.

[identity profile] kristy-chan.livejournal.com 2006-08-06 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know if there are going to be any gay femme boys!!!

I would bet $5 there will be, though.

[identity profile] epiceneone.livejournal.com 2006-08-05 02:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Always got your back little boy. It was great talking to you even though your cell serviced sucks....

Hope to see you...

S.

[identity profile] starfrosting.livejournal.com 2006-08-05 03:06 pm (UTC)(link)
It might be time for a new phone-- that was really aggravating. But it was great to hear yr voice (even if you couldn't hear mine) and I'll let you know about our traipsings through GA as soon as I know.

[identity profile] taxishoes.livejournal.com 2006-08-05 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
re: the femme conference, I'm not sure, but I've heard of some femmes who are not women going to it. [livejournal.com profile] fagtastic, for example -- actually that could've been my imagination but I know he identifies as femme and I'm pretty sure he went or was going to go at some point.

Plenty of grown ass men act like teenagers. That's one reason why women get exasperated with them.

Annnd I was gonna make some "duh" pronouncement like, "Your parents have poorly drawn boundaries," but . . . duh. D'you really think you'll get hair on yr chest? Within the next five years?! I mean, maybe it you keep it up with all that red meat.

[identity profile] starfrosting.livejournal.com 2006-08-05 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh lord, I don't know. My dad is a hairy beast, but then again my brother's gone through normal puberty already and just has baby-bear fuzz on his tummy and nothing to speak of on his chest. I don't really care either way cos I think we both know that I'd rein in what would be excessive hairiness for me, but if that shit comes in while I still have tits, I might need to strategize! (Wow, I kind of forgot we were talking on here instead of through email. TMI for everyone else?) Anyway I guess the boundaries are kinda weird, huh?

ps- you are a Femme Ally! did you ever go to that picnic w/that girl?

cuz femmes rule

[identity profile] taxishoes.livejournal.com 2006-08-05 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
No, that's the afternoon I got sick, so I never made it.

I'd say the boundaries are kinda weird, but this is your family we're talking about so what do I know. :P

Men [with enough testosterone in their systems] keep getting hairier and hairier as they age. So your brother can still end up a hairy beast ha. Lots o' chest hair + tits scares me because I'm transphobic. But also I guess it'd be hard to go somewhere and get that waxed! (!!!) Because other people are transphobic, too.

so does internalized transphobia!

[identity profile] starfrosting.livejournal.com 2006-08-05 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Honey, I'd trim it myself and get you to wax it. Don't be silly.

And I know dudes get hairier; I just bring up my bro to point out that I don't think it'll happen to me (if it's gonna happen) particularly hastily.

Ugh I can't think about fucking top surgery it makes me pine.

love you--

[identity profile] deadlybuzz.livejournal.com 2006-08-05 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Goading joke retort and spinning into femminist theory is so NOT worth your breath with your Dad.

and oh my GOD I got told that BDSM is disgusting towards women and its so fucked up on BF.com the other day. And also got in trouble for bein a bit of a fag.

[identity profile] starfrosting.livejournal.com 2006-08-06 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
yeah, I mean that website is great and all but it can be oh-so-frustrating.

Dude, if you want to fuck/crush on people who aren't femme *why are you on the site*?! Bitch please.

[identity profile] deadlybuzz.livejournal.com 2006-08-06 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
I kow cus anything out of a b/f dynamic IS WRONG AND AGAINST JEEBUS!
oh wait.... ehm.. AGAINST SAPHO!
I also got in trouble for using the word 'dude' cus 'they aren't men'.

Fuckin hell!