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I don't know why anyone bothers going to English classes where there isn't at least one mention of anal fisting in the course of the semester. In other words, the final O'Rourke seminar did not disappoint. I am gonna write that man the best damn paper I can considering I've done fuck-all this entire semester and my brain is ever-so-slightly flabby.

There was something else I wanted to say but it's gone. Considering I slept for 4 hours last night I think that's acceptable. This weekend I want to play the yeshiva boy and spend the whole time working, bent over a table, maybe a candle for that extra touch of studiousness. Okay, I realize I just said bent over a table, but that's not what I meant. I meant stooped like a scholar in an Isaac Bashevis Singer story. I might go watch movies with The Dykes (as I accidentally nicknamed those 3 dykes I met at Centre Stage when Ren and Jaclyn were here) tonight. Monogamy is weird and so is the realization that sometimes if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it might just be a duck, rather than a butch duck.

Rory and I used to call boys ducks, after the Weetzie Bat convention. And biscuits, with types of pastry delineating personality/physical type, also after Francesca Lia Block (whose books I am very much regretting having left at home. Who the fuck brings D&G instead of nice pomo-magical-realist stories?)

Oh man I get to cut Cathy's here now. I'll let you all know how it turns out. It's gonna be drastic! And by drastic I mean fabulous.

Date: 2006-04-07 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toughgav.livejournal.com
D&G = deleuze and guattari? me an' a friend of mine call them dolce & gabbana.

Date: 2006-04-07 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starfrosting.livejournal.com
Hehe. We obviously have so much in common. A friend of mine was gonna make me a D&G shirt, styled after the Dolce and Gabbana colors/stylization, but, yknow, Félix and Gilles. It's a little bit sick and obnoxious on my part, but I have no shame.

Date: 2006-04-07 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toughgav.livejournal.com
[sick and obnoxious is fine]

actually, what i'd like to do, i think, is write a list of the texts i've been reading for school and switch it for yours. i just read that susan stryker article you referenced two days ago, the monsters one, and i've been glowing ever since. what other gems are you sitting on? i'm taking this trans-accademic cross-pollinization to heart, oli, and i've never been gladder or more ready to potentially take on a brain crush the size of the one i think i'm developing for you.

Date: 2006-04-07 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starfrosting.livejournal.com
oh honey, the feeling is mutual. may I suggest jacob hale's "leatherdyke boys and their daddies," accompanied by eve sedgwick's surprisingly fabulous response? you can find it in social text. in general I adore Hale. more later, I'm too sleep-deprived to provide properly at the mo.

Date: 2006-04-07 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toughgav.livejournal.com
okay, i give up. i've been looking for an online pdf of social text, this special issue (Phillip Brian Harper, Jose Esteban Munoz, Anne McClintock, and Trish Rosen, eds., "Queer Transexions of Race, Nation, and Gender," special issue of Social Text 52.53 (1997)), and no luck. social text's database goes back to like, 2000, i think.

though i do adore hale--i've read jacob hale's rules for writing about trans__, as well as leatherdyke boys and their daddies (which was the subject of a problematic paper i wrote two years ago...), and i've also read Munoz' "the white to be angry".

and just timing-wise, funny story: judith halberstam spoke last night at mcgill university, which is four blocks away from concordia and of course i went. (it was good. mostly good to see her, you know, put a face to the text).

all this to say that there are some hella exciting bibliographies online and i'm often real sad that the texts are expensive/innaccessible. dang. do you have an electronic version? i'm so curious!
have you read anything by ivan e. coyote or taste this? this isn't theory; rather, it's super-formative feminist storytelling. what about namaste? viviane, formerly ki. this lovely individual teaches at concordia, though i've never personally had the pleasure--she's great.

Date: 2006-04-08 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starfrosting.livejournal.com
I must have accessed it from the Vassar database. I'm sorry you can't get to it-- I would send you the Hale that sits permanently on my desktop, but you've already read it. Do you want the Sedgwick response or have you already read that one too?

Oh my G-d, I fucken love Halberstam. Even though I find parts of her work really problematic, female masculinity was a really important book for me. Plus I think she's really, incredibly hot.

I've never read Namaste. What do you recommend?
And yeah, lots of Taste This is pretty good. I want to read more Coyote.

Date: 2006-04-08 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toughgav.livejournal.com
i do want to read sedgwick's response!

[hale sits permanently on your desktop?? intense...]

and yes--halberstam is slightly new to me, her name kicks around all the time, and we've read F2M: the making of female masculinity in my deviant bodies class. it wasn't well received, since it reads so transphobically unless you already know that she does like to pose things in a problematic way and then step back and go, "what do we see from here? does it help? can we maybe sorta possibly say it and making it okay? etc. etc."
which i didn't know.
until i met her.
and yes, she's hott.

Date: 2006-04-08 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starfrosting.livejournal.com
what is yr email?
I mean my computer desktop which, by the way, is a Tom of Finland illustration. So every time I open my computer I am greeted by teacup nipples and leather and a sailor suit.

Date: 2006-04-08 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toughgav.livejournal.com
oh yeah: rlapid at hotmail dot com. thanks.

Date: 2006-04-08 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toughgav.livejournal.com
i got it, computer desktop. i just couldn't decide which was funnier--you having a desktop background of c. jacob hale, or you having his text[s] permanently lined up in little icons on the side.

Date: 2006-04-07 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fucking-shut-up.livejournal.com
im writing a paper now entitled: Text, Language, and Kinky Sex: Challenging and Subverting Male Dominance in The Wife of Bath

Date: 2006-04-07 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starfrosting.livejournal.com
Oh fuck me. Can I read it when yer done? My prof evidently wrote some sort of thesis about fisting in the Canterbury Tales. Evidently that shit is rife; too bad I only read some of it back when I was 14.

Date: 2006-04-07 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fucking-shut-up.livejournal.com
it's not a very good paper (theres very little actually kinky sex in my paper). you can read it if you want, just gimme an email address and i'll send it.

but yeah. something fist sized be lodged erotically in my anus in the state of canterbury...

Date: 2006-04-07 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phlat.livejournal.com
is that like "something rotten in the state of denmark"?

Date: 2006-04-07 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fucking-shut-up.livejournal.com
yes. only im tired.

Date: 2006-04-07 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starfrosting.livejournal.com
olstephano@vassar.edu.
and damn.

Date: 2006-04-07 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fucking-shut-up.livejournal.com
sent!

but really, as a paper it sucks. the title is the only good part.

Date: 2006-04-08 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starfrosting.livejournal.com
I haven't gotten to read it yet, but I'll let you know when I do. And don't worry, I won't judge you by this paper.

Date: 2006-04-07 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deadlybuzz.livejournal.com
dude.. you said the M word. *shudder*

I could sure go for some anal fisting right about now! :P

Date: 2006-04-08 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starfrosting.livejournal.com
Yeah, I mean I respect the fact that some people can consciously choose to be monogamous and have it be fulfiling and great, but for me, for the forseeable future, *shudder*.

Oh can you. I'll go get the Crisco. I have small hands, don't worry. Haha.

Date: 2006-04-08 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deadlybuzz.livejournal.com
haha

Bitch-please I have Liquid silk under my bed, we'll be fine! ;)

Date: 2006-04-08 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starfrosting.livejournal.com
Ooh, fancy.

Date: 2006-04-08 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harris06.livejournal.com
totally unrelated to the content of your post, but since reading this i've had that song in my head all day and it's making me laugh.

Date: 2006-04-08 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starfrosting.livejournal.com
My roommates had the television on and the music video was on in the background. Even better.

Date: 2006-04-08 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taxishoes.livejournal.com
This weekend I want to play the yeshiva boy and spend the whole time working, bent over a table, maybe a candle for that extra touch of studiousness. Okay, I realize I just said bent over a table, but that's not what I meant.

Laughing really hard . . .

Date: 2006-04-08 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starfrosting.livejournal.com
And now I'm picturing you laughing and I'm fucking grinning.

ps-If we were dating, we would be so disgusting. All our friends would want to boot us in the face. And hey, even our platonic love could elicit that kind of reaction.

Date: 2006-04-08 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starfrosting.livejournal.com
And I take a sick pride in the fact.

Date: 2006-04-08 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starfrosting.livejournal.com
Okay. And I want to read Muñoz too.

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